I about blew my lid this afternoon when I read the following from a Wall Street Journal blog about Marissa Mayer, Google’s VP of Search and User Experience, offering advice to the newspapers at an upcoming Senate hearing:
She also plans to offer some advice. The first involves the notion of a “living story.” Google believes, and has been arguing behind the scenes to some major newspaper publishers, that instead of newspapers publishing multiple articles on the same topic throughout the day, they ought to combine the entries under a permanent Web address. Doing so, Google argues, can help publishers–which often complain that their journalism is getting buried amid other less serious content–increase the authoritativeness of their articles and surface higher in Google search results.
“Consider instead how the authoritativeness of news articles might grow if an evolving story were published under a permanent, single URL as a living, changing, updating entity,” she plans to say. “We see this practice today in Wikipedia’s entries and in the topic pages at NYTimes.com. The result is a single authoritative page with a consistent reference point that gains clout and a following of users over time.”
Let me point out something . . . Google News only looks at a URL once! How do I know this? Because Google News told me (looking for web reference, if you have it let me know via Twitter and I’ll update the post).
Also, perhaps Marissa Mayer should read this page on the ‘help for publishers’ pages of Google’s Webmaster help pages:
Be permanent. For example, we wouldn’t be able to crawl the page www.yoursite.com/news1.html if it displayed a different story every day. In order to ensure that our links to articles function properly, each article on a news site needs to be associated with one unique URL, and that URL must be permanent (i.e., it can’t be recycled).
Is it just me or did Google just tell me NOT to do a ‘living entity’?
Also consider this scenario . . . Caylee Anthony case in Florida. If the Orlando Sentinel would’ve kept the same URL for several months . . . you know how many ‘updates’ of the story Google News would’ve indexed? One . . . the first one it saw. I worked closely to have a dual strategy for Caylee Anthony. One strategy included ranking well in Google News with each update . . . and one strategy to continually drive the most relevant story to the top of the Google Web results. I won’t get into details but it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to know that it included 3-0-1 somewhere in the strategy.
Don’t get me wrong . . . I’d be THRILLED to have Google change this policy. I’d tell all my Tribune newsrooms to constantly update URLs with new information on a story. If there is a different enough story to focus on a different set of keywords then create a new URL (example Caylee Anthony pictures, Caylee Anthony funeral, etc.) and story but if it is simply an update to the story . . . just slap it into the same URL. I tell them to do this already when we aren’t going for a Google News play or if we already have the top slot in Google Web (i.e. Michelle Obama dress, been top slot since election night). My mindset is that if people are searching today for ‘Michelle Obama dress’ they aren’t looking for information from months ago, they are looking for the most recent information. The old versions of the story should be captured under a different URL and put into the http://archives.chicagotribune.com
So . . . Marissa, before you give us advice . . . please make your company friendlier for us to take your advice. After all, you do own 70%+ share in the search engine space.
Thanks
Great post Brent and good thing that you are working in the “paper” industry because you were able to draw the parallel to the Google Webmaster page that contradicts Mayer’s statements! It sounds as if its a topic that is not unilaterally decided on at Google and that maybe Marissa’s liking is for what she says while the person/people in charge of the Webmaster guidelines is not. Either way, I am sure that the good ole 301 works fine for now.
Have you ever seen an instance where a certain number of 301s would trigger a penalty. I have heard at various sources that Google will penalize of they detect too many 301s.
“Is it just me or did Google just tell me NOT to do a ‘living entity’?”
It’s just you. All they said is to keep the same content as well as updates to it on a given URL. Eg All TARP info/updates on one URL. Don’t make the Tarp.html page something about Afghanistan.
The GNews thing is different though, and encourages new URLs.
Conclusion: Set up times to consolidate content on a weekly or monthly basis. Check my post at Graywolf’s blog on SEO for blog categories for mroe…
So, one solution would be a URL structure like this:
newspaper.com/section/slug-yymmdd-version.html
latimes.com/sports/iraq-20090506-23.html
then the canonical tag would always point to the latest version of the slug
and a drop down menu of the previous versions (yes, huffpo like) could still be available but ‘supposedly’ the canonical tag would direct the pagerank to the most important story for the users
This would be some work for us to implement but I’d fight like hell to get it done quickly
Perhaps suggestive of a change to Google News down the road, away from a tabloid-like mashup of breaking URLs and towards closer integration with Google’s search engine (and relevance measures). What she suggests builds authority, maintains freshness, and serves search users well… and if fresh enough, represents a “brand safe” approach to Google News (by default, grant some extra weight to known authority domains/urls over breaking urls).